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A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.

An Internet meme or meme, is a cultural item that is spread via the Internet, often through social media platforms. The name is by the concept of memes proposed by Richard Dawkins in 1972. Internet memes can take various forms, such as images, videos, GIFs, and various other viral sensations.


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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The thing with jokes like these and Birds Aren't Real and Russel's Teapot and stuff is just that we don't believe in them and the people that do believe in the vaccine cause autism BS is that they do fervently do.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think I understand your point.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He's missing some punctuation, but the point is that the burden of proof ought to be on the people making the claim instead of as it commonly happens, that people state something wild and then spend their time arguing against the proofs against it. The secondary point is that people who do this are already blind to this, so they are basing their arguments on something that only they believe, and strongly believe without proof.

It makes discussion futile, because the people believing in random stuff are asking for evidence against something untrue that is based on something untrue which is based on something untrue. It's 2 or more steps away from logic.

I don't know if that made any more sense, so let's make an allegory with math.

Let's say a person wrongly believes that 2=3. This belief is unknown for anyone besides themselves. Based on this, they conclude that 2x3=4 and state that openly. So a sane person would argue that 2x3=6. The first person then claimss that 6 is wrong, and the second person will attempt to prove it logically. It does not matter how much proof the sane person provides of the 6 because the first person does not understand that from their belief. The 2=3 belief is never discussed, only the 6.

The result is that they will never agree.

The best way to counter this kind of stupidity is not by logical argumentation. It's better to simply ask "why?" until the wrong person argues themselves into a position of belief, which can then be countered by a final "why?" to which they have no answer and are forced to reevaluate their belief, and hopefully come to a better one, or at least start questioning that instead.