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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems like the discourse has broken down to picking sides.

Hamas is a terrorist organization and does nothing to help the Palestinian people. Israel is indiscriminately leveling a city with absolutely zero regard for innocent lives.

Maybe this situation is full of nuance and grey areas that a single tweet or article or comic can’t fully encapsulate.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hamas is the the elected ruling group of Palestine. Even referring to the current Israeli government and army as Israel, but then making a distinction between Hamas and Palestine is hypocritical.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They "governed" in the gaza strip, yes, but when was the last election exactly? In 2006 they got in power, then they murdered their political opponents and have kept their power through force ever since

Saying that they're elected by and represent the people would be a bit of a stretch

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same stretch as saying the ruling Israeli government represents the people of Israel after the election crises over the last few years.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We have two ruling bodies who have a vested interest in continued conflict and not representative of their constituents.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago

Right, but folks say Israel is one, the whole nation, but Hamas is the other, they aren't Palestine. The differenciation in one and not the other is hypocritical and problematic.

Say Palestine vs Israel, accepting that it's assumed it their ruling body and army at war, and not the average people.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While it's true that Hamas was elected, half of the people living in Gaza aren't old enough to vote and there hasn't been an election since 2006.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

And Israel has their own electric crisis, neither ruling body represents the nations.