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[–] Saizaku@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Linking to the great firewall article is completely nonsensical in this context, and you would be aware of that if you had bothered to open the link in my previous comment.

just so we on the same page, I'm talking about data is gathered, not whether it's protected ( legally ) , idc

Which is exactly what I'm talking about, which you would again know if you read what I linked.

I'm not a lawyer but I think somewhere in the DSL it mentions data is collected from companies within China and outside

It doesn't, what I linked to discusses the very laws you are talking about at length if you are actually interested rather than just spouting nonsense like "it's in the constitution".

Just so we're on the same page you have no idea about Chinese laws on gathering, processing and handling of data, but you heard it somewhere, repeat it, won't bother to research further and then claim there's no propaganda.

but why is it hard for you to swallow, knowing that US based companies ( with all the power they have, lawyers.. Etc ) comply with data collection laws

Because they don't. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?

[–] adam_b@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh, shoot didn't realize China is a privacy haven, maybe I should move there, maybe I should install Tiktok as well, is that what you're saying ?

Because they don't. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?

There is a misunderstanding here, I meant they do comply with FBI subpoena's and they do handle data to US government and 3 letter agencies, why is it that you think Chinese companies are safe from their government ? ( I'll rephrase it : if US gov can just order US based companies to hand over user messages and emails, why can't China gov do the same to Chinese based companies ? considering their track record )

I did open your article BTW, it doesn't answer this question, off course i didn't read the whole thing

then claim there's no propaganda

how ? When ?

Didn't say it's not propaganda, I was the first to suspect the news I shared to be propaganda, but that doesn't mean there is no truth in it, that's how you make successful propaganda, you add false narratives to the real ones, have you listened to why your government officials wanted to ban Tiktok ?