Yes but the history of the book is different. The text of Augustine's confessions is the same but the copy produced by penguin is DIFFERENT from a manuscript produced by a medieval scribe. They have different histories and are different things in the world.

You can't say that my book and your book are the same. The "text" may be the same, but they aren't the same thing.

Unless you discount the materiality of life entirely you will never be your clone.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I see what you're saying, but I think I'd be happy if I got a new book after my old book was destroyed, even if I'd rather my old book not be destroyed. I'll take the clone body with the clone brain, and I'll still consider myself alive even if the original is long gone. It's a new copy of the book, but it's still the same story.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

other people have covered most of my position well enough, i'll just slip in here and say it wouldn't be the you having this conversation who thinks she's alive.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think that's for us to decide, isn't it? As far as I am concerned, as far as she is concerned, we are the same person.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you seen Don Hertzfeldt's World of Tomorrow?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

No, but the synopsis definitely sounds relevant!