yeah, an important clarification on that is i base my superhero stuff entirely on movies. i made a genuine effort to get into the comics but i just couldn't -- it might just be my luck but i've literally only read either canon or good stories from marvel and dc, nothing i tried managed to hit both. but for what it's worth, i presume the majority of people are the same way, comics just don't have the same degree of mainstream cultural penetration that movies enjoy.

i do agree with you though, clark is far more interesting than superman. i used to be an ardent superman hater specifically because the movie portrayals sucked and most online fans i interacted with were like "my fictional character could totally beat your fictional character" but i do really enjoy very human stories about the dude. and hell, sometimes his powered stuff can also be kinda cool -- but the same applies to captain marvel as well and that's usually the part that people don't like to accept.

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yep! I'm not a big fan of any of the modern Superman films, I think there's way too much punching and not enough super-human feats. And by that I mean rescuing people, or performing "miracles" that only he can in order to help the greater good.

Clark will let a monster punch him in the face dozens of times if he thinks he can save both the people and the creature's life. That's what creates dilemmas for me when I enjoy a decent Superman story, an ethical dilemma that can't be solved by hitting something as hard as possible.

The cool thing about Superman isn't that he has these fantastic powers, but that the person who wields them will always try to do the right thing, because they know nobody else can.

The original Superman movie nailed that aspect. Clark was confident and maybe even a little cocky because of his abilities... but when his father suffered a heart attack, all the super strength in the universe couldn't save him.

You are 100% correct in that a lot of superhero discourse online seems to aaaaaaaalways come down to "who would win in a fight", which has always baffled me, because comic books are LOADED with ethical and moral plays which are suppose to make us question whether violence is even a good answer for anything in the first place.

It's about using your own strengths to help facilitate the weakness of those who can't help themselves.

At least to me.