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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure she would find equivocating the US with Russia very reasonable

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

She doesn't, but that's my whole point: it's a personal perspective. If you ask a person from Palestine, Vietnam, many places in South America, Yemen, Iraq, etc. their gripes would be different from my own, which as an Italian are different already from my wife's etc.

So which moral claims do you accommodate? The obvious answer is everyone's, by allowing each user to choose where indirectly give money. However this is apparently technically hard, so either you shut down or you simply decide that you can't accommodate any, and make good in other areas (I.e. through privacy-preserving services).

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Russian money is directly killing people now, and if people use false equivalence like "everyone bad" then the war keeps going

Russia should be shut off from the Western world

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 1 points 39 minutes ago

So does US one in Palestine. So does UAE, and many more. It's not a matter of "everyone bad" is the fact that legitimately if the criteria is no paying anybody in a country that is involved in killing people, or that uses services from such a country, you reach everyone. And in this case it would be not using kagi directly as a US company.

The war in Ukraine is much closer to me, but if we are talking principles I need to understand that a person from Lebanon or Palestine, or other places might have different perspective and they would demand that "we don't do business to X" has a different "X". So to accommodate most or all of these perspectives, you need to necessarily include more countries, as the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not the only active war at the moment.