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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap

lots of examples of what this map emoji means here

I particularly like this one of the countries that recognize Palestine, which is the inverse of the 'same map'.

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/f8d50ef2-6638-43e2-86e6-d1ece0d35add.png

[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !alwaysthesamemap@lemmygrad.ml

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Good bot. This is important enough to be built into lemmy imo

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, this is not an explanation. For something as important as the imperial core, which you claim the map portrays, there needs to be an actual proper definition and reasoning behind it. Having a bunch of loosely corrolated maps is not it. The list of countries that recognize Palestine is also not a proper inverse.

I am just tired of seeing this map spammed. Once some even ridiculed others for not acknowledgeding it as the de facto definition of imperial core. I think this is especially bad due to having yet to see anyone actually putting any effort into analysis of why it looks like it does. Spewing unsubstantiated ideas is for the incoherent bourgeoisie and fascists.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a meme (Moreover, the emote is named "international community" not "imperial core").

Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements. E.g.: xi-plz

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements.

I-was-saying

speak for yourself posadist-nuke

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No each map is explained on that comm. You assigning it 'imperial core' and asking for an explanation is some JAQing off sealioning imo. Theses maps correlate how interests of countries align around various issues, and the 'same map' comes up a lot because of how these same countries often agree on things in contrast to the the rest of the world. It's not some socio-political theory, it's just the reality of how these countries align into blocs that correlate with maintaining the current US hegemonic status quo.

The two maps that really 'explained' this concept for me were the map of countries that 'condemn China's treatment of Uyghur Muslims' contrasted with the map of 'countries that recognize Palestine'. It shows how this bloc of countries want to demonize China while supporting the ongoing genocide of Palestine's indigenous peoples. The principles they espouse are unmasked in the light of the truth of this comparison.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Saying I am sealioning is an accusation and not an opinion besides also being wrong. Here is one in return: Acting like the map is not usually considered to portray the imperial core is intellectual dishonesty on your part.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

citations-needed

Whotf talks like this anyway?

is an accusation and not an opinion besides also being wrong.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First you accuse me of sealioning and then you hide behind an "imo" like that is just your opinion. There is no such relativistic position on an objective matter. You are wrong to claim so and cowardly for disguising it as an opinion. With this in mind it does not surprise me that you stoop even lower with trying to berate me for my style of writing. Who tf acts like that?

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I gave you a perfectly reasonable explanation of what the same map means. You refuse to accept it and write like this. Disengage.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago
[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

smuglord debate pervert