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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree that you heard them say that but just because someone is talking doesn’t mean they are being truthful.

Just a clarification, it was many people saying that over multiple decades in multiple instances on multiple media.

I personally have multiple friends who are conservative, from different families.

I point that out just to make the point that I don't think they all were being untruthful, and IMO I think they all (or vast majority of) were being truthful to their belief system.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are people telling the truth if there are a lot of them? Are people telling the truth if they say the same thing a decade apart in time? Or are people telling the truth about what they believe when they show a consistent resoned opinion that has all the basic objections to it understood?

I know people who make solid arguments for and against gun control and they all have a well thought out set of reasons and can usually deal with standard objections. I don't see this at all with the forced birth crowd.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are people telling the truth if there are a lot of them?

The odds are that some of them at least are.

And my personal impressions after speaking to them over the decades on the issue is that most if not all of them are being truthful, to their belief system.

Don't mean to be argumentative with you on this one, but I can't buy into your assertion of that they're all lying, that 0% of them are being truthful. It's not what I've seen.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I didn’t ask you odds.

"Never tell me the odds."