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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

So how do you describe someone who identifies as a marxist communist but not a tankie?

I call that a kid being manipulated by the wrong crowd. You can support intelligent social policy without aligning yourself with the USS fucking R.

As for the other stuff, even if it aligns with the schemes of Russia, maybe China, cant you conceive of any reason whatsoever as to why someone might want the USA to be weakened

Because they're hostile militaristic dictatorships which want to expand their borders but people keep getting in their way.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Okay wait, I didn't say the USS fucking R I said Marxist communist. You're putting things in there that don't belong, and I shouldn't have to eliminate every movement of the last 150 years that I don't want to be associated with. Marxist communist.

As for being a child, I'm far from it. Unless you'd like to insult me straight up and infantalize what I've spent a long time understanding and explaining to people (mostly to help avoid confusion and campism among other Marxists.) While you and I really don't agree, I doubt you'd call the last several years of my life that I've been a socialist organizer a project that is anti-usa. I'm no fan of imperialism, and the USA is the core, and I'll fight it when possible. That doesn't align me with Russia and China, it aligns me with justice and truth.

The USA is not rational, global capitalism is not rational. When China behaves IMO pretty rationally for a global power, it goes against the interests of the USA. This is how imperialism and class war turn reason into anti-reason, which anyone with eyes and ears can see is the law of the land here. You can't look at the world and be like "this makes sense" and that isn't completely the fault of foreign interests, which def exist and behave maliciously. But again, that doesn't make unreason into reason.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Marxist Communism is now, has forever been, and will forever be intertwined with the USSR on an ideological scale. You will never associate with Marxism communities who are not filled to the brim with USSR sympathizers and supporters. It's a tainted word that can never be salvaged, you're better off coming up with new labels for yourself.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What made you such a fervent anti communist? Most people don't care, but you love hating communism its like your whole thing. I think you love hating communism more than I love communism, though to be fair, not by very much ;)

You see I associate with a history of other radicals and revolutionaries who called themselves communist. And it says right in the manifesto, "communists disdain to hide their views and beliefs." Why should I hate the USSR? Because that drunk Joe McCarthy told us to? That's where your misunderstanding of communism comes from: an alcoholic fascist republican bully. Its strange to hear you dismiss trumps (very wrong) policies in one breath, and repeat the lies of Trumps greatest predecessor. There's no consistency or content in your criticism, its all just moralizing.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

It's funny how easily you tankies reveal yourselves despite initially trying to play the part of "someone who identifies as a marxist communist but not a tankie".