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[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It wasn't just a pact of non-aggression. They divided Poland between themselves! France and Britain abandoned Czechoslovakia to avoid a war, USSR made an alliance with Nazi Germany to begin one.

And USSR and the US were on the same side because they were attacked by allied countries (Germany and Japan), they didn't chose one another. Stop your historical revisionism.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I won't defend all of the USSR's actions, but it's absurd to suggest they were motivated by any sort of ideological alignment with the Nazis as opposed to self-interest and circumstance, in the same way that the US and USSR were motivated by a common interest rather than ideological alignment.

At basically every other moment in history, all across the globe, Marxists and fascists have been at each other's throats.

Nothing I've said is in the least bit "historical revisionism."

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Still, the USSR considered that an alliance with Nazi Germany was ideologically acceptable, even if they were not aligned. Because the only true ideology of USSR was to maintain its leaders in power, Marxism was just a facade. And that's will always ultimately the case with authoritarian governments.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Of course self-preservation was a priority for the USSR, as it is with any nation. Failure to achieve self-preservation would have meant being ruled by the Nazis.

Not sure how that in any way indicates that "Marxism was a facade."

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

Self-preservation is something else than making an offensive alliance with Nazis.