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[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So I guess OP means neo-liberal rather than liberal in general.
Is it correct to say that neo-liberal is economically liberal but not socially liberal?
I see American conservatives tend to also use "liberal" to qualify their opponents, but in this case it seems to attack the social liberal specifically (typically about gender, sexuality and origin).
Overall, this single term seems to have a different meaning depending on the political section so it's hard to understand on such an out of context statement, I wish people would use more precise periphrases.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

OP means Capitalism. These are the tankie bots and trolls.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Is it correct to say that neo-liberal is economically liberal but not socially liberal?

Yes that would be fair. Neoliberalism is about freeing capital.

Overall, this single term seems to have a different meaning depending on the political section so it's hard to understand on such an out of context statement, I wish people would use more precise periphrases.

There is a certain amount of historical ignorance involved in this, I once fell into this category. There is also people taking the root word liber in any context to lump everyone into one category as the US conservatives do and some on the left seem to do this as well.

I don't agree with people on the left or right besmirching or confusing classical liberalism or social liberalism with neoliberalism. All three are different. I fall far more in the camp of social liberalism which is similar to classical liberalism but with more emphasis on the social contract and the thought that governance should play a role in that social contract for its citizenry. My post above left out social liberalism for brevity as I find the two to be very similar.

I would advise never taking anyone on any social platforms definitions for just about anything. Even mine. There is dictionaries and encyclopedia's for just this purpose, words have definitions often with interesting histories. Below are some links that will give you a far better understanding of the differences and their histories.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

You are absolutely correct and I'm happy to see this clear comment when the topic seems to usually be purposefully obfuscated

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago

I wish people would use more precise periphrases.

This is a shitpost from people who aren't even in the US and don't even vote, about US voters. The fact that they're using "liberal" as an insult should give it away.

If you're so left wing that the Democratic party is a big scary meanie and you live in the US and are registered to vote, the odds that you're college-aged are very, very high. As might you be. Which is cool, which is cool.

Everybody else though is doing a great job pretending to be a real live American from somewhere that isn't on the northwest coast.