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That's a very important, but entirely separate conversation.
Its actually very much the conversation. The quicker the race to the bottom happens, the quicker this entire bubble bursts, and the quicker we stop torching the planet for imaginary profits.
That's your opinion/agenda, not a legitimate argument in the conversation about AI efficiency. The discussion is on how best to achieve a goal, and you're saying that it shouldn't be achieved. Even if you're right, you're still going off on a separate tangent.
You're the vegan who butts in on the conversation about how best to sear a steak and says meat is murder. You're welcome to your opinion on meat and you may even be right, but it is of absolutely no value or interest to the people talking about methods for cooking meat.
I'm not arguing about the "efficiency" of it. I'm stating that OpenAI did the exact same thing they are complaining DeepSeek did: Steal other's work, remix it, and then claimed it as their own.
And to reply to you "tuna fisher" analogy, I would be fully ok with people stealing the loads of tuna, to hasten the collapse of the entire industry.
Its you who is getting into the weeds about this, not I.
So you butted into an argument about efficiency, said "fuck all that", and then said I'm getting too in the weeds by sticking to the original topic?
Go spraypaint some fur coats or something. We're trying to have an honest discussion.
I didn't butt into shit. You replied to my, top level comment, attacking something I don't even care about.
I am too. So OpenAI is pissed that someone else did the same fucking thing they did, and now, "Stealing people's content" is wrong.
The entire post is about Microsoft investigating whether DeepSeek faked its results using OpenAI data, driving the freefall in tech stocks and endangering future investment in the technologies used to create the models.
You not liking the tech has fuck-all to do with the topic.
And you chose to reply to my comment, attacking a strawman that you yourself created.
And yes, this entire post is about MS, aka OpenAI being bigly mad someone took "their" work, copied it, and passed it off as their own. The literal exact same thing MS, aka OpenAI did.
You opinions of what the topic are have fuck all to do with the actual topic.