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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’ve argued with hundreds of versions of you. I know this game. I’m not answering shit to until you answer what was asked of you first.

Did non-voting in protest/third party protest votes affect the election, yes- or no?

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay let's lay it out.

Did protesting genocide win the election? No

Did defending Israel and attacking peaceful protestors win the election? Also no.

Did protestors fighting for peace stand with Israel in carrying out a genocide? No.

Were those protestors wrong when they said democrats would lose if they didn't stop the genocide? No.

Were those protestors the establishment of the Democrats? No

Did establishment democrats stand with Palestinians against genocide? No.

Did they stand with the side committing genocide? YES

Did they lose? Yes.

Idk what kind of own you think this is. Its not like the dems lost by opposing genocide, actually they lost enabling it. If only someone had warned them

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sooo… you’re admitting that your protest was a complete failure and that none of you get to say “we told to this would happen!” anymore, as the election was not a result of your lack of action or help… even though some 90 million people didn’t vote.

Even though it’s safe to say, as a result of that failure- a portion of those 90 million people that didn’t vote as a result of your grassroots protest campaign- a portion large enough that might have made the difference had they voted-

Effectively helped trump win..

Congratulations. Instead of the small and ineffective group helping the larger group win- which would have been a lot more efficient and productive, you all instead opted for the seemingly impossible and destined-to-fail task of demanding the larger group fall in line behind the small and ineffective group.

Lastly- My purpose in this discussion was not to change your mind as that is clearly evident in the fact that If trump wasn’t enough for people like to be encouraged to do the right thing- nothing is. But there’s hope that there might be someone that’ll come across this and learn from it so that if and or when we see ourselves in a similar situation- they don’t listen to people like you.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Send me a link to your discord where you post your Ws, terminal main character syndrome

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

I rest my case.