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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, what they are saying is the Dem's consistent refusal to listen to their voters, and instead thinking that voters "owe" their votes to the dems, is what got Trump elected.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How on earth does refusing to listen to voters equal losing an election without also admitting that you are responsible for the outcome of an election if this was your reason to protest vote/stay home?

You either had an effect on the election that caused trump to win via your act of protest, or you didn’t/ and therefore don’t get to say “we told you this would happen.”

If you didn’t vote in protest; or voted third party to send a message to the democrats, then you get to take the blame for trump. That is how a logical conclusion is made.

If you chose not to eat chicken because you don’t like it, and your only other option is to eat pasta, and you don’t like that either-

It is YOUR fault you are hungry, not all the other people eating their dinners.

Seriously…. Even children should be able make this distinction. But I guess that’s what happens when arrogance meets shame-

You get stubborn ignorance.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How on earth does refusing to listen to voters equal losing an election without also admitting that you are responsible for the outcome of an election if this was your reason to protest vote/stay home?

Because I don't blame individual voters, for the decisions of the candidate running?

You either had an effect on the election that caused trump to win via your act of protest, or you didn’t/ and therefore don’t get to say “we told you this would happen.”

So, no fault goes to the candidates? At all?

It is YOUR fault you are hungry, not all the other people eating their dinners.

Isn't it the fault of the person who only provided the food, and only giving the choice between shit sandwich and diarrhea soup?

If voters protest voting had an effect, doesn't that mean the blame lies with the candidate who wholly ignored the voters? Because they ignored the voters during the election, its fair to say they would be ignored after the election.

Seriously…. Even children should be able make this distinction. But I guess that’s what happens when arrogance meets shame-

Yes, even a child should be able to make the distinction of genocide being evil, regardless of the purported justification.

And, here's a spoiler: I voted for Harris! Yes, it was a very selfish decision on my part, because I have direct interactions daily with, well, most of all the groups that were being impacted under Biden, and now under Trump. At best, I was hoping for 4 more years of radicalizing people.

But guess what? I still am working to radicalize people.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

No one said the candidate or the party takes no blame. That’s foolish to even think to assume.

But 90 million people didn’t vote. It’s safe to say that several million of those were single issue protesters. And then the over 3 million third party voters?

Yeah…

It’s your fault you’re hungry.