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Make no mistake, I found out some unfortunate (and yet unsurprising) facts about how the Danish treated the indigenous population of Greenland and would absolutely support Greenland becoming independent if that's what they chose (or even part of America if that's what they choose), I'm not under the illusion that the Danish did anything but invade and colonize Greenland.

My lib colleague however was wondering why Greenland doesn't belong to America as it's closer to America; his first thought wasn't 'why isn't Greenland independent', nor (going along the lines of which country it's closest to) why isn't it Canadian, but instead why isn't it American. My colleague coincidentally doesn't believe he's been heavily propagandized, he believes he's reached his opinions organically. He doesn't even stop to wonder why he's thinking 'why isn't this landmass or that landmass American'. This guy despises Trump, and yet on a matter he didn't care about several weeks ago he's now finding himself agreeing or at least seeing some common ground with Trump on.

The libs are a lost cause. Some folks here say they were libs once but the difference is that because you were rational, or because you lacked knowledge you were libs; most libs on the other hand won't let new information or objective thought change their views (and I know you guys hate the idea of objectivity, but I mean it in the sense of asking/wondering from a neutral position on matters; a neutral view on Greenland would either lead to supporting them being independent (if they wish it) or supporting them being part of America PROVIDED they wish it). Just flat out expecting this place or that place to belong to America is....well, Imperialism, and this view is coming from a place of instinct at this point.

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[–] REgon@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've got danish family. ~~Anecdotally most danes support Greenland becoming independent if greenlandic people so wish. They have the right to vote for it at any time and held a vote some years ago.~~ (edit: I've just got a good family it seems. Only 17% support "full independence" apparently https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/ny-maaling-kun-faa-danskere-stoetter-fuld-selvstaendighed-til-groenland)

It didn't go through because the danish state understands where it's bread is buttered so it rolled out all the scare tactics it could get away with. Greenland is valuable for Denmark and makes the country a lot of money by way of territorial claims to water and the like (good fishing). That's also why Hans Island became contested, whoever holds the island holds claim on the surrounding waters. And nowadays there's more and more focus on the resources that can be extracted.

Recently it came out that a doctor had been inserting IUDs without greenlandic women's knowledge all the up to 2008. Something that was assumed to have stopped in the 90's.
At least the government pays a small stipend to Inuit people as a form of reparations or something. It's still fucked.

@SoyViking@hexbear.net has a bunch of effortposts about Greenland and Denmark. Go check out his post history