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Trump plans to lift the Biden administration’s freeze on supplying 2,000-pound bombs to Israel and reverse sanctions against Israeli settlers.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It's a much, much more complicated situation than you're presenting. Biden was trying to thread the needle between "deny Israel weaponry" (end result: Opportunistic invasion by Israel's neighbors) and "give Netanyahu all the weapons he wants" (end result: what we're about to see with these gigantic, city-block-destroying bombs).

How would you do it?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, it's the "but what about the Jews" argument. You do realize Israel's whole problem with its neighbors is their treatment of Palestinians, right? If Israel can't stop its apartheid and make real.peace with their neighbors then they deserve to get invaded. Their apartheid state isn't worth more than the at least 200 thousand Palestinians who died in Israel's genocide. I'll also point out that Israel has the most advanced military in the region, so the idea that Israel can't resist an invasion is wrong.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world -2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Do you think Israel should be destroyed?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

What if I told you that all states built on nationalism are illegitimate.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, why not? Again, apartheid states don't deserve to exist. Also I'll note that this is not the same as "should Israelis be all mercilessly slaughtered", that's a different question with a different answer.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Its not complicated at all when multiple international human rights organizations credibly found Isreal was committing war crimes and the US already has a law preventing the sale of arms to nation's credibly accused of war crimes. Biden was the cheif executive all he had to do was execute a law that was already on the books. Neither the SC nor Congress would have had any say.

Stop carrying water for genocide financiers who had every opportunity to do something different.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's not an answer, and I'm not "carrying water for genocide financiers." I never once excused or denied Israel's behavior. Netanyahu responded to a horrendous terrorist attack by turning the dials on "horrendous" and "terror" up to 11. He's a monster and a war criminal and should spend the rest of his life in prison.

Now then, how would you do it? Put yourself in the president's shoes. You need to come up with a solution that allows Israel to continue to exist and not be destroyed by, say, Iran... AND allows the Palestinians to survive. Cut off all weapons, goodbye Israel. Give Israel a blank check, goodbye Palestine. What do you try to do?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I gave you the solution, it is an answer. Follow the law as written, Israel is not above the law. You keep jumping through hoops to say we can't follow the law and then claim you don't carry water for them? Fuck all the way out of here with that cognitive dissonance, you're practically hasbara.