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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37638868 !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

This affects Signal too

An issue with Cloudflare allows an attacker to find which Cloudflare data center a messaging app used to cache an image, meaning an attacker can obtain the approximate location of Signal, Discord, Twitter/X, and likely other chat app users. In some cases an attacker only needs to send an image across the app, with the target not clicking it, to obtain their location.

https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117?ref=404media.co

Signal, an open-source encrypted messaging service, is widely used by journalists and activists for its privacy features. Internally, the app utilizes two CDNs for serving content: cdn.signal.org (powered by CloudFront) for profile avatars and cdn2.signal.org (powered by Cloudflare) for message attachments.

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[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

i think this would be true of basically any large service that had multiple data centers. whichever one catches your data is the one closest to you.

the difficulty is accessing that data even if you can't read it you still have the closest location.

sounds to me like the Internet working as intended. if you want true privacy you need to take extra steps

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not even guaranteed to be the closest data center. It’s not completely out of the ordinary for there to be a faster route available to a data center farther away.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago

Agreed. Privacy is always a balance between your threat model and useability. If your general location is enough to put you in danger, hopefully you're already aware of how your data is being sent over the various networks and have measures in place to stay safe.

For most people, knowing very generally where they are isn't especially useful information to anyone with an interest in surveillance.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

On the one hand, deanonimization attacks are never entirely avoidable on unhardened targets and this one isn't particularly sophisticated and leaks relatively little information.

On the other hand deanonimization attacks are always bad and it's a good reminder to people of the risks they are taking. This is also slightly non-obvious behavior, even if it makes sense to the technically competent, as something like an IP grabber normally requires user interaction such as clicking a link. It's also a vector that CF might be able to mitigate by patching the ability to query a given cache directly.

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago

they should be able to patch that as long as nothing relies on it working as is