the tiktok exodus is widely known! for those of you who don't know, i am in high school. i can't count with my hands how many people have talked about it, and that's just in the two classes i had yesterday (exam week, yay). i've already gotten 2 people to download it. they both made accounts and use it now! it's broken the niche internet thing into the real world, at the very least for young people.

on the app front, lots of americans are posting things like "we've been lied to, china isn't that bad!" i've come across so many americans learning about chinese culture and responding positively to patriotic or socialist posts from chinese netizens. it's insane, i'm really amazed at how, for at least a good chunk of americans, china is becoming less demonized.

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[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 41 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm really hoping for a "Congratulations, you played yourself" moment with the Tiktok ban.

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think we're past that point. There's no return from here, even if the app gets banned.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe once the Tiktok ban actually goes through, there's going to be an even more massive surge of users, but I'm not convinced that, right now, there's been enough Americans to join the app and talk to Chinese people for there to be any noticeable shift.

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's what I mean, though. The shift has already happened. Amerikkka already owned itself before the TikTok ban. Now they have to decide whether to anger a million or so people by banning RedNote, or continue to allow users on RedNote which continue to be more radicalized anyway.

Also realize 1 million people potentially becoming sympathetic to AES countries and communism is a big jump in the number of people currently radicalized in the US. We only had about 100K people vote for PSL, for a comparison.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Third option: Lift the Tiktok ban. People will more than likely just go back to Tiktok, and forget about this whole thing, because goldfish brain. And the main problem, Israel's genocide, will not be as huge an issue because since, for now, there's a ceasefire, so Tiktok users won't see constant crimes of Israel, and goldfish brain will kick in.

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yes, but that would mean the US gov would be competent, which they are demonstrating they are not. I believe it is more likely they will take the knee jerk reaction to ban the app, and the Supreme Court has already upheld the TikTok ban. We'll see what happens, but I see this as a major win regardless. The damage has been done. People will not be able to unrealize the propaganda they've been fed.