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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't see in the "about" what jurisdiction (if any) you are incorporated in. I also don't see if there's any encryption at rest.

This is important to me because in the US, the government can go to court, get an order demanding a US email provider to put in a backdoor, and then get a gag order so the US company can't disclose it to users.

And with open-source code, I end up trusting to some extent that the server code matches what is on github, so making it open-source doesn't stop forced backdoors and gag orders if it's based in the US.

For someone whose threat model doesn't include the government (someone not LGBT+, not Latino, not trans, a political moderate with average viewpoints who won't be impacted regardless of who is in power), it's not the sort of thing that matters. But for others, it would help to include that information.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t see in the “about” what jurisdiction (if any) you are incorporated in. I also don’t see if there’s any encryption at rest.

You only get company names with "Inc." in the USA as far as I know?

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago