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Google and major mobile carriers want Europe to regulate Apple's iMessage platform (www.engadget.com)

submitted 1 year ago by Salamendacious@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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The long fight to make Apple's iMessage compatible with all devices has raged with little to show for it. But Google (de facto leader of the charge) and other mobile operators are now leveraging the European Union's Digital Market Act (DMA), according to the Financial Times. The law, which goes into effect in 2024, requires that "gatekeepers" not favor their own systems or limit third parties from interoperating within them. Gatekeepers are any company that meets specific financial and usage qualifications, including Google's parent company Alphabet, Apple, Samsung and others.

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[–] bkk_beaucoup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anybody remember Hangouts? Google’s iMessage that was better in every conceivable way than its Apple analog, integrated with Google voice, could be accessed anywhere you could get on Gmail etc? Dropping the ball on Hangouts to favor carrier pre-installed messaging Apps was such an incredible and short-sighted blunder. I concede that exactly like their many app deprecations/cut-and-runs that did not take the long-term sentiment of the end user into account and damaged their reputation and adoption. And now here we are… trying to grovel back into iMessage’s purview.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they killed hangouts was when I think everyone stopped trying to adopt google products. What's the point, it will be killed.

[–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think you're right. I got some people to start using Hangouts and then Google killed it. I don't even bother to learn what Google has available now for chats because I know now there's no point to trying to get people to switch, no matter how good/bad it may be.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Name a better duo than Google and killing off products

https://killedbygoogle.com/

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name a better duo than Google and killing off products

Yes, duo is on that list.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

oof

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

*EA enters the chat

[–] snowe@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait you thought hangouts was good? Holy shit would that be one of the worst Google offerings of the decade if it wasn’t for the ten other Google chat and video systems they have made. My god I can’t think of a worse communication platform than hangouts. You might be the first person I’ve heard of liking it.

[–] bkk_beaucoup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t want to make assumptions, but your reply makes me think you arrived at Hangouts once it was already being deprecated by Google. Granted, being US based I didn’t need the coverage of WhatsApp (limited as they was even then to phone # accounts), the scant usage of Viber or the other innumerable messaging apps I touched in that time period. Hangouts integrated seamlessly with SMS, let me send media/stickers/map embeds to mixed-platform groups never worrying about quality downgrade. And did I mention that one could access Hangouts (and its SMS pass through server) from any machine in the world through Gmail? iMessage makes you jump hoops to do that shit today.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

And did I mention that one could access Hangouts (and its SMS pass through server) from any machine in the world through Gmail?

this was actually one of the things I hated the most about it. It doesn't really matter what features you provide when the product is so bad it can't even make up for it. I had no clue it had sms passthrough, it was just a shitty chat/voice client integrated into my email client, slowly making things slower and slower the more they added.