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[โ€“] Vespair@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only good guys in this conflict are the innocent uninvolved citizens on all sides. Aside from that, everyone involved, including those on the ground on the conflict, those in the situation rooms, and those both funding and manipulating the situation from outside are all the bad guys.

Anyone who tries to paint this as a simple moral conclusion, and not as one part in one of the most complicated and difficult geopolitical situations on the entire planet, is either an idiot or part of a propaganda campaign, knowingly or not. These trite oversimplifications are insultingly reductive to the situation, do nothing to help any of the actual potential victims, and only serve to foster both misinformed reductive thinking and harmful attitudes towards groups without the full context to reconcile these impressions.

There is an information war being waged by many forces on all sides of this conflict right now; be wary of anyone who encourages reductive thinking on complex issues when lives are on the line.

[โ€“] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

Hey.

You're 100% right, and your view aligns very closely with mine. It's also very well worded; nicely done.

I'm extremely frustrated with the loss of innocent lives. I realize my meme is oversimplifying, but that is inherit to the format of memes themselves. In this case my meme serves to vent my frustrations with an appalling situation and to serve as a jumping off point for deeper conversations.

No matter the frothing at the mouth, anyone not directly involved in the decision making process of this 'war' is essentially powerless. We can pressure our governments to not fund a given side, but that's about the extent of it.

It's pretty fucking shitty.