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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Late 18th century, yes. And if I hear pop history myths about the Iroquois, I will be irritated.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Women were not specifically barred from voting in the United Kingdom until the Great Reform Act of 1832. This doesn’t mean that they voted often - and would have been practically barred in most circumstances, but it was possible in some. There were no bars on suffrage for black men in the United Kingdom at any point.

If we talk about representative power, we can talk about how the balance of power in Congress was unfairly weighed in favor of southern states through things such as the 2/3 Compromise (having large, non voting enslaved population.) There was no direct voting on Senate positions until a later amendment which I’m too stoned to bother looking up right now. Even if your ideal of democracy is the Athens of direct democracy - one man one vote - I don’t think the 18th century US was that spectacular.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

It was 3/5 compromise, but you're both right. Pug is more correct though.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Women were not specifically barred from voting in the United Kingdom until the Great Reform Act of 1832. This doesn’t mean that they voted often - and would have been practically barred in most circumstances, but it was possible in some. There were no bars on suffrage for black men in the United Kingdom at any point.

Before the reform act of 1832, something like 1% of the population of the UK could vote due to property requirements, stricter than any of the US states in the 1790s.