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[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 188 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

The last panel applies to every other social media, just replace the spying country.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 60 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

That last part is becoming less and less relevant .... someone is spying but it isn't for the benefit or under the control of a country. More and more, the spying is meant more for the purposes of commerce and finance, for money and control. For business interests which is what major governments mainly represent.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 29 minutes ago

surveillance capitalism…

[–] bahbah23@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago

And as soon as the government wants it, most companies hand it right over.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

At this point, the line between business and government in the US is almost non-existent, so definitely still a government using your data for the propaganda machine.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 18 hours ago

Reminds of my favourite description of the US ....

"The US isn't a country, it's a corporation with a military"

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

And it doesn't matter who or why, either - as soon as someone hoards other people's data, someone else will try to steal it.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, and that's why US companies aren't banned by the US. The foreign power having so much propaganda power was the danger.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

Same reason why China bans a shitload of sites. It's fine when you do it to your own citizens

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

If I wanna get my propaganda from more than one world power, that's my right under the first amendment. Or it was.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So if an American company collects user data and sells it on the open market to a hostile foreign nation, and accepts money to run propaganda, that’s A-OK?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That capitalism baby! I suppose Congress can at least control who Facebook et al. are selling to through sanctions and such.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

They could but they haven’t, so this ban is just racist economic protectionism.

[–] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Right? Now do Facebook.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There are multiple instances pushing propaganda and most data can just be scraped by bots. It may be harder, but capitalism finds a way.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

The multiple instances:

[–] 7dev7random7@suppo.fi 3 points 19 hours ago

The last panel also hurts us - fellow non-americans :(