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So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

See part of why I have so much of a gripe with liberals is this sort of mentality here. California is one of the most solidly blue states in the country. Since you didn't defend it on the merits, it seems you agree the choice I described in my post was not great, correct? But instead of realizing that it may be possible that rich politicians from your team are not actually on your side, you just defer to nebulous 'ancient laws' that apparently make it impossible for helpful choices in, and lets be clear here, a city deciding it's own budget. Care to point to the federal and/or state laws that just hamstring the benevolent liberals of LA and force them to increase the police budget by 160 million dollars? Laws that apparently can't be challenged, or circumvented by the liberals in those positions, since they would certainly do so if they could, right??

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Rich politicians are not liberal. They are neoliberal. There is a vast ocean between the two

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Neoliberals huh? So where are the liberals in all this? Destitute in the streets?

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Bitching about liberals from their ivory towers appparently

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So are the liberals bitching about neoliberals from ivory towers then?

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Right. What im saying is leftists are the same until a policy measure fails then to people on here "its the fault of liberals" as if theyre not the same arm of the constituency. Its just devisive bullshit

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So did they vote to keep slavery from their ivory towers, and blame it on neoliberals?

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It looks like the entire state was ignorant or misled by deliberately confusing wording. Down ballot voters were more likely to check "no". Had they used the word slavery in the measure it would have more likely have passed like it did in a variety of other states that, wait for it, are liberal

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Okay, so the neoliberals that are the actual problem chose poor wording so they could trick the liberals into voting to keep slavery?

Were the changes to the LA budget the product of "ancient federal and state laws" or neoliberals now?

Are all the politicians neoliberals, or just most with power in the state?