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So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction"

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Oh I see, so Southern plantation owners just have to run individual prisons with open air detention centers for incarcerated individuals of color that happen to be lined with cotton plants and coincidentally they can sell that cotton for profit.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They did exactly that. Right up until the 1940's when FDR's Department of Justice went after them.

[–] Femcowboy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They're still doing it, like there are still prison plantations in Louisiana where they send black people for having half a joint on them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The thing about peonage is they kept people forever. That was the big problem. Putting a definitive end date on a sentence made it magically better. I agree that forced labor is slavery, I'm just referencing the dying gasp of the actual plantation system. While we should eliminate prison slave labor, it's also nowhere near what the peonage system was.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 minutes ago

Things being worse previously does not make what is now any better. Raise your standards.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You joke, but ... well, it is not a joke.