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I genuinely don't understand people defending copy right on Lemmy. It's a bad system that's made for wealth hoarding. Out of 1,000,000 copyright conflicts only 1 them protects actual people. The rest 999,999 is there to hoard wealth for the rich.
It's good that Llama was trained on copyrighted stuff even if you hate Meta and Zuckerborg.
Copyright is bad, but if it exists, it should apply equally to everyone, not just megacorporations.
That will never happen because it costs resources to pursue infringement.
Maybe if we eventually reach the stage where AI is basically running all law related issues so everyone can afford it? But if that happens then we're already in a post-copyright world.
It does apply equally to everyone. The lemmy hive mind simply doesn't understand copyright law.
If I pirate a movie for myself, I have to pay a huge fine. What will happen to Zuck after he pirated all the movies and made money with this?
You’ve actually had to pay a huge fine?
That's the law in France, most of Europe, and the USA.
But you have to then hold everyone accountable equally... This part feels one sided
Why, though? Many lemmings get away with "piracy" via torrents. Meta is in court over it and may very well lose on this count.
LLM won't destroy copyright laws, they are the evident of the problem with copy right as you mentioned. People cannot view the content they brought in the way they want, yet company with a gigantic tech and law team can jump around the grey area for as much profit as they wish, with 0 compensation to the creator of these knowledge.
LLM absorbing copyrighted work is not a win against copyright law, it is copyright law at work.
Sorry but I don't follow. What do you mean?
The entire idea of "restricting information" to protect investments of investors is fundamentally flawed. There's no way to do that other than is brute force (what we do right now by just bullying people who do it) and good luck brute forcing billions of free data streams from billions of people, some coming from jurisdictions you have no control over. The critical mass has been reached.
What are they going to do? and I mean this as a legitimate questions as someone with a computer science degree. There's no technical solution and there's no political solution. The last grasps of these LLM lawsuits are just last chances to grab some free lawsuit money. It's done. Game over copyright.