And not only is the first part necessarily the worst, but once you’re in the system they make it hard to get back out by throwing all sorts of arbitrary requirements on you to fulfill, with little to no flexibility. 10-week class that occurs right in the middle of your work-day? Fuck you. It all serves to essentially keep you in the system as it keeps on fucking with your life. Not to mention prison/jail, which brands you with a permanent scarlet letter that bars you from even working at many jobs even after you’ve gotten out.

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Same thing with having one of those breathalyzer things on your car. You have to pay to have it installed, pay a monthly fee in addition to all the other shit you've already paid for. And then you can only go a very few certain places. Makes it incredibly difficult to recover from that. It's not to punish you or keep you off the road after a DUI, it's so they can extract more money from you

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They don't arbitrarily hand those things out... Don't drink and drive and it's not a problem.

[–] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Our entire bar/nightclub economy would collapse if nobody drank and drove. Not defending it, just pointing out America has terrible public transportation and very little means to access these places without driving.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Human beings make mistakes.

[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They limit where you can go? Like with GPS reporting to somebody?

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve unfortunately had the pleasure of needing one of these interlock devices installed on my car back in 2010. It’s definitely been awhile but the device only limits where you could go if you had alcohol in your system, and that limit would be NOWHERE. If you were sober you just had to blow clean every 5-20 minutes and I could drive as much as I pleased. The option without the device was no driving except to and from work and maybe the grocery store 1-2 times a week.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

go if you had alcohol in your system, and that limit would be NOWHERE.

Isn’t that kind of the point of such a device?

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I was explaining to the person I replied to because they clearly didn’t have a true understanding of how the device works.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, then I misunderstood the tone of your comment.

[–] uint8_t@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

how comes you had to have this installed?

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never heard of this, but I'm sure there's some jurisdiction that would probably limit you to only going to work or something if you have one

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve had one before and without it you can only go to work and the grocery store. With it you just have to blow sober and you are free to drive as you please, it’s like having the judge in the car to make sure you don’t fuck up.

[–] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

And then they charge you hundreds to thousands of dollars for those classes so that once you do find a job, they just garnish your wages.

They charge you for drug tests and "renting" ankle monitors, and if you don't pay they just throw you back in jail. Which sometimes has its own fees. Even public defenders can have fees depending on your state/county, and they will threaten to take you to small claims court over the $50 they billed you without telling you. For counsel that literally exists to represent poor people. Ask me how I know.