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[โ€“] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Feudal lords are aware that they need to keep the peasants happy to maintain power. Modern capitalists are just giddy with excitement to liquidate as many people as possible to fuel their machine because they live behind 6 layers of abstraction.

You can't really abstract yourself from the problems as a Lord or King, you're the sole representative of the law (outside the church).

It's easy to organize against a Lord because they're obvious, it's harder to organize against an abstract body of capitalists because they aren't human.

[โ€“] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As Marx said 'the limits to the exploitation of the feudal serf were determined by the walls of the stomach of the feudal lord' or as Rosa Luxemburg expands on this Marx quote in a passage I really need to find, most feudal exploitation was driven by a rational material need, food for the lord and his retainers, materials to build castles, maintenance of weapons and horses, etc which in turn are used to protect and seize more resources. Where as modern capitalists accumulate for the sake of accumulation, often unstably and at the expense of company/workers/resources, having cycles of boom and bust. This isn't a moral statement or recommendation on feudalism though.

[โ€“] JustSo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

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You theory readers are the fucking backbone of this site. Thank you.

[โ€“] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Accumulation unburdened by the yoke of reality

All that is solid melts into air

[โ€“] JustSo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, really good point.

I wonder if these costco-communes would be particularly ripe for tenant union organising efforts a short way down the line.

Backdoor the corpos and give em more fronts to worry about.

edit: regardless we'll probably see some #OccupyCostco within 3 years after some bad eviction stories.

They'll be ripe for organization, and giving the tenants a unified target will be easier, but just because it's easier to organize against a real entity that isn't totally abstracted and obfuscated, doesn't mean it's easier to actually accomplish anything.

Feudalism lasted for millennia with over a thousand years of stories about peasants rising up against kings before capitalism finally killed it. Even then, he kings just turned into C-Suite zombies.