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[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm a public-facing member of an org. Everyone else in this website would be too if they weren't cowards.

I'm not going to post my name on the Internet because any groyper with a VPN could mail a pipe bomb to my apartment. But if you haven't gone to your local county/city council and told your local sheriff/police commissioner "My name is [Drew] and I am a Communist, I believe you should be fired and your job abolished", you're a liberal.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm a public-facing member of an org. Everyone else in this website would be too if they weren't cowards.

watch out, we got a badass here

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is a completely fair response and I think I was overly broad with my original comment. For what it's worth, I don't believe I'm a badass, I'm a joke of an organizer - I'm just speaking from the perspective of someone active in the scene. And left-wing security culture has by far been more of a detriment to organization locally than a boon.

If someone doesn't have the time, energy, or inclination to do organizing work IRL I think that's totally fine. Everyone has the right to enjoy their personal time how they see fit, and that may include posting on a niche left-wing Internet forum; and not everyone is in a good place in their life to do organizing work.

What bugs me is clowns on the Internet spreading self-defeating paranoia-induced "privacy best practices". Read any modern work of theory; hell, listen to a shitty leftist podcast; and they'll tell you that the most effective weapon the Capitalist class has is not shooting you with a gun or putting you in jail; it's the chilling effect on speech that their threats engender.

It is asinine to consider filing a FOIA request on Hexbear a serious mistake.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah I don't disagree people should be organizing in person I just thought posing it as cowardice to not do so was a little bit over the top. I'm neutral on whether FOIA-ing this silly shitposting website was bad or good.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for calling me out and keeping me honest; I think we're basically on the same wavelength

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

The more I get involved with my org the more I agree with the take

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

That's kind of the point. We have to watch out because sometimes the opportunity comes along and you find yourself pulled into a local action group and suddenly you're "a badass" because you're helping a bunch of boomers fight a multimillionaire capitalist known for sending violent men to the houses of the people who stand up to them and their projects.

Not me of course I'm just a harmless liberal.