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[–] k5nn@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Inb4 apple places a chip in the cable that only handshakes with apple devices?

[–] gila@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's the ports, they force USB2.0 speeds (same as lightning) unless you get the Pro (this is unverified)

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As long as they don't fuckup the charging speed, I doubt it would make a major difference. The number of people/occasions you need to use a physical cable to transfer data is much smaller now than in the past.

[–] clutchmatic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh they will fuck it. No doubt. Especially since charging wattage is controlled by software. Dell already does this thing with their laptops as 100W charging voltage over USB C is only available through Dell chargers

[–] gila@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There isn't necessarily a USB standard to compare with to that end, as type C supports a wide range of standards. Compared to lightning, both iPhone 14 and 15 seem to offer up to 20W charging with the wall adapter sold separately. So again, no improvement where it could most likely be provided easily (e.g. like any other phone manufacturer has), but charging rate isn't solely determined by the port/cable in the same way as data, there's ample room for Apple to argue that the charging is slower on the base model for some other reason related to production cost vs. Pro

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

they force USB2.0 speeds (same as lightning) unless you get the Pro (this is unverified)

Not as much force, it's just the chip in there isn't good.

It's very verified by the way, it's in the Tech Specs.

IPhone 15: usb 2 to 480 Mbps (source)
IPhone 15 Pro: usb 3 up to 10 Gbps (source)

[–] k5nn@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Wait so if it's not apple's cable you're throttled to usb 2.0 speeds?

[–] gila@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Nothing to do with the cable, the port on the device is a USB-C port that is limited to USB2.0 speeds. Whereas the iPhone Pro has one that can do USB3.0 speeds. This seems to have been recently verified by the tech specs on Apple website btw

[–] Andrenikous@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

No, only the iPhone 15 pro has usb3. iPhone 15 is usb2. They have it listed that way on their site.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The bad SOC is the limit.

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's forbidden in the EU with the same directive that forces USB-C, so that'd be very dumb of apple.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well EU is not the only market for Apple.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

it may not be but, 1/3 your market is a hefty margin

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Apple is free to leave if they can't hold themselves to the pro-consumer laws of the EU.

And we won't be sad to see them go.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The EU said they would ban Apple out of EU if they even attempt.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't some early 2000s Mac USB cables have a bit sticking out and a notch on the computer so they could only be used with Macs?

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compliance reasons. USB spec at the time didn't really allow for extension cables because it added an unknown amount of resistance.

The notch was a workaround; they were within spec for the intended device both with and without that cable.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Oh interesting! I guess I should stop blaming apple then.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

incompatible monitor/printer cables... they all had 'standards'. whatever happened to ISA or parallel