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Discord will switch to temporary file links to block malware delivery::Discord will switch to temporary file links for all users by the end of the year to block attackers from using its CDN (content delivery network) for hosting and pushing malware.

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[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Eh if they don’t want people using their service that way, that’s their right. People who care about it that much should host a matrix instance.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder that file uploads on discord more than a few mb is a paid feature.

[–] lostmypasswordanew@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is typical enshittification. Make an impossibly good service to gain marketshare. Then make it worse once you've eliminated all competition and dominate the market.

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You make it sound like the initial investments were sustainable

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 1 year ago

If their plan was to intentionally make unsustainable investments and then gut features later on, they should be shuttered now before they waste any more users time and money

[–] lostmypasswordanew@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Initial investments are usually excessively big to secure your position. The main focus isn't to balance the budget, but to have as many earnings and growth as possible to then get rid of the defficit

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You are describing enshitification. You're missing the point.

Company enters market, disrupts it with money from investors, with featuresets that aren't profitable just to drive out the competition, kills the competition who have to pay for their features and pricings with an actual business, then raise prices and reduce features now you're the only one left.

See music streaming, food delivery, taxies, TV and movie streaming, now game subscriptions are gonna do the same thing. Discord is another example .

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did anything about my comment imply I thought this change was illegal? This has nothing to do with their rights

The issue at hand is taking away a feature your users have come to expect from your product after youve secured a level of dependance by outcompeting the competition

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t intend to imply that, my statement can be rephrased as “if users don’t like this change, they should use an alternative, because discord is going to do what makes sense to discord.” File hosting is ubiquitous and cheap, so it isn’t a big deal. I don’t work at discord, but I do work at a company that has file hosting as one of its features, and combating malicious misuse of that feature is expensive and a pain in the ass. If I could get away with not offering file hosting, I’d be tempted to remove it.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you think your company could get away with offering a paid service that included file hosting, and then suddenly announcing that the file hosting was now only temporary?

Or would you expect your customers to abandon you over any claims of "just find an alternative"?

E: to clarify, by "your company" I mean where you work. Im not assuming youre at a position of ownership

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The services are way too different to compare that feature in isolation, unfortunately. But discord’s business model is not to be a cdn, and I think it’s a good move to occasionally prune a feature that doesn’t provide enough juice for the squeeze. We’ve seen much worse enshittification this year, and I doubt this move has any measurable effect on their active users. Dealing with getting your servers off of blacklists because some douche decided to host malware on your free file hosting isn’t how anyone wants to spend their days, I assure you.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago

Its not going to effect the causal, non paying active users for sure.

But thats because they arent the paying customers. A lot of people who paid did so for the purpose of upgrading their personal servers, which pretty often included the file storage.

Im not in a ton of servers, but the ones who were community hubs are already discussing leaving discord over this, because the file convenience was the big draw of paying for discord. No idea where they want to move to, but they arent happy about sitting still.