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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 28 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

We need an A-11 already. Make it stealthy and give it a giant railgun or something. Give the world what it wants: even bigger flying gun.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Too many blue on blue incidents for any squadron commander to OK a gunpass in an A-10 ever again.

It's a bombtruck for Day 3 operations against asymmetric foes.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Lol ok here you go:

Bohemia Interactive basically imagined up what you're asking for about a decade ago, and at least in my circles, everyone thought this was the stupidest looking thing ever.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago
[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

Not stealthy though, no railgun, it's just an A-10 with a Japanese body kit installed 0/10

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 25 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

idk I think the A-10 is more of a trad-CAS influencer than a genuine warplane suited for near-peer conflicts in contested airspace at this point, it is weird and I am pretty sure it isn't a good idea but the algorithm likes the brand so shrugs I think the successor to the A-10 needs to lean into the whole influencer lifestyle thing from the get go.

Make it look cool and design an advanced network of escort drones that constantly orbit the aircraft ready to launch into action at the first sign of content and beginning taking selfies of the aircraft.

Maximum impact will be achieved from the pilot having access to a social media avionics suit complete with a state-of-the-art "A-10 Trad-CAS" reply-by-wire guy Automated Post Authoring System customized from software developed by the CIA to help topple vulnerable democratic governments in central and south america.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This shit is why I stick around noncredibledefense.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Plenty of guys over there agree that the Hog is a modern Stuka. They're both impressive, have intimidating reputations, make a scary sound, and too vulnerable to operate without air supremacy.

And the Air Force agrees. In Desert Storm, the A10s had to hunt SCUDS in the desert because they were getting murdered by Iraqi anti-air.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, I could see the A-10 being useful in a near-peer conflict unmanned piloted by a remote drone operator in a swarm of covering/scout drones with purposefully worse radar/heat signatures.

The remote drone operator could fly the A-10 employing a nuanced strategy of "Fuck As Much Shit Up As I Can In The Shortest Amount Of Time Until I Get Blown Up" (not gonna write that acronym out, but trust me it is in plenty of DOD whitepapers) military strategy developed by Henry Kissinger during his time at the Rand Corporation. The idea wouldn't really be to take too many airframes home, but if it is WW3 than I mean who is worrying about retirement!

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

FAMSUAICITSAOTUIGBU

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fairly certain that if A10s were deployed in Ukraine, Zelenskyy would be in Moscow by now.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

.... I feel like you could take out a an A-10 with just shoulder launched AA missiles? I would much prefer to be a helicopter in a high threat environment than an A-10 since you can more easily hide behind terrain as cover. I mean really, the difference between life an death is going to be the couple degrees of cover given by a ridge you get from hovering as absolutely close as you can to the ground as you get ready to launch a TOW... you don't want to be an airplane in that kind of environment unless you are really fucking fast.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 7 points 9 hours ago

Nonsense, the Hog will take any missile like a champ and keep flying. Have faith!

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

To be fair I'm not actually sure how incorrect that actually could be.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago

In Arma 3 they have the A-164 Wipeout which is either the coolest thing ever or a cursed monstrosity depending on who you ask