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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Did you actually read that link?

The extent to which suffragette militancy contributed to the eventual enfranchisement of women in 1918 has been debated by historians, although the consensus of historical opinion is that the militant campaign was not effective.

In fact:

In May 1913 another attempt had been made to pass a bill in parliament which would introduce women's suffrage, but the bill actually did worse than previous attempts when it was voted on, something which much of the press blamed on the increasingly violent tactics of the suffragettes.[116] The impact of the WSPU's violent attacks drove many members of the general public away from supporting the cause, and some members of the WSPU itself were also alienated by the escalation of violence, which led to splits in the organisation and the formation of groups such as the East London Federation of Suffragettes in 1914.

And women didn't get suffrage in the UK until 1918.

[–] allo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. And I feel the amount by which the 'terrorists' made it a public issue was more important than the quoted analysts believe. It may have been so overly strong that it scared some away. But it also showed that it was a real issue to solve NOW. No more putting it off untold decades; and that is what I would hope from militant activism today. May America get Universal Healthcare like the rest of the developed world within 5 years now. And we will know who to thank.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

May America get Universal Healthcare like the rest of the developed world within 5 years now.

You forgot who Americans elected as president last month, didn't you?

[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I know it's a long shot, but it's possible Trump could be manipulated into doing some actual good. He's at the phase of life where even he must realize he can't take his material wealth with him in death, and might want to send a final "fuck you" to all his pathetic suck-up followers when he realizes that they just want to use him.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I appreciate your optimism, but I think civilization getting wiped out by a giant meteor in the next four years is more likely.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

something which much of the press blamed on the increasingly violent tactics of the suffragettes

I'm sure the press of their time was pure and true reporters of fact rather than manufacturers of consent defending the status quo.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And yet, just as now, the press drove public opinion. PR is everything and I don't know why people don't get that.