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I absolutely cannot figure out what to do in order to fix an Apple computer when it’s bugging out. Is it a part? The OS? Something external? How am I supposed to diagnose this fucker with so little information? Windows is rapidly heading down the same road. Linux will remain the final bastion of those who fix their electronics themselves
Buy a new one, duh
Or do the same basic troubleshooting you would for any other computer. It sounds like the person you're replying to doesn't know how to do that. They should learn. It's not that hard.
Debugging a Mac is just as simple as debugging a Linux OS… because it is Linux.
I can't tell if you're making a joke or just confidentially incorrect
Well, macOS is unix based, and when debbuging a friends mac, I usually find that I find the terminal more comfortable than the Windows Command Prompt.
Now, that Mac does break in very weird ways sometimes, but I digress.
Linux Is Not UniX
Also Gnu is Not Unix
It’s a lot simpler to say Linux to keep the conversation going than it is to say Mac is BSD based and therefore is a Unix system and has all the exact same benefits of a Unix based system. There is no joke here, maybe you just like correcting people when they’re trying to have a conversation.
Calling something Linux is very specific, and it's just not true for macOS. E g. if someone brings you an encrypted drive that uses LUKS, you can't mount it in macOS. But both are Unix-like, macOS even being UNIX certified. However, from what I understand, these mostly concern a specific part of the stack that doesn't guarantee that you can work with the other system, this is rather something for applications to target. I mean cool I can enter a shell and list files on macOS, but that doesn't fix the problem.
macOS is Unix. Everything can be logged and reported through the terminal if you want more debugging information. There are also power tools you can download that give you better GUI-based control over a myriad of things.
Though it’s worse now than it was ten years ago. Apple’s software has been suffering under Tim Cook and it’s probably not going to get better until he’s gone.
Indeed I think the "Yes/No" are the wrong way around on the Apple part of the flow.
Also, why else do you think they call them geniuses. Only geniuses could possibly fix your smooth metal rectangle.
"After ~~smoking a bowl in the break room~~ thorough investigation, we have determined that you need to buy a new one."
If only it had a whole slew of logs, like any other OS, that I could easily Google the locations of... Nah, vomiting ignorance on Lemmy is easier.
support.apple.com
If shit gets real real, developer.apple.com.
Mac is Linux? You debug it the exact same way, except unlike Linux, you don’t have to worry about 50 different distros, so it’s a lot easier to find solutions. Debugging a hardware issue is just as hard as any other platform… what are you even trying?
The one thing I'd agree is that it tends to be harder to fix hardware issues. Well, on the new one's you just don't because it's soldered, but a friend's late 2015 27 inch imac has a borked SSD, and to replace it, we'd need to take off the glued on screen.
Softwarewise, I prefer the issue-finding experience to the windows one, though.
Harder to fix completely depends on which manufacturer you bought your laptop from, but yeah Macs aren’t easy to fix hardware issues. But finding them is just like other platforms, there’s nothing different there.
Well, yeah, anyone that solders memory and storage will be exponentially harder to fix. I'd be hard pressed to think of any more difficult to fix than the current Apple lineup. Equally difficult? Sure, there's plenty.
I wouldn't be surprised of there's shome shitbox out there I just haven't had in front of me yet.