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Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Racism is a systemic issue, you can't be racist against the oppressor.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re correct, and if you wanted to be more specific, you can’t participate in systemic racism against the oppressing class. You absolutely can, of course, participate in non-systemic incidents of interpersonal racism, sometimes called “reverse racism.”

But people who have no interest in examining the historical structures of white supremacy will downvote both your comments and mine because nuance isn’t as fun as calling each other racist. 🙃

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Racism is a very specific term meant to point out the existence of a system of oppression. Interpersonal racism exists exclusively as a symptom of systemic racism, since there's no societal system that oppresses white people, there's no racism against white people — of any kind. Reverse racism is racist rhetoric on the level of "all lives matter" meant to deny and trivialize racism. Imagine calling battered women shelters sexist because they don't allow men.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

fully agreed. nevertheless, i try to allow a little grace in this discourse because race did exist as a concept outside and generally prior to white supremacist contexts. additionally i find it’s not rhetorically useful to brute force the language like that to ears primed to favor colorblindness. rather, i favor simply describing what kind of racism is going on, which in this case is explicitly and simply non-systemic.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its not racial, its economic war.

By continuing to promote race based fights you keep the wealthy in power.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Pointing out the existence of racism as a system of oppression isn't promoting race based fights and the fact that you think it is is so racist it borders on comedy.

"Hey, black people usually get harsher sentences than white people for the same crimes. We should, you know, stop doing that"

"Hmm, actually, it's the billionaires that are the problem so you should stop trying to pit people against each other based on their race"

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Keep on doing the work of the oppressor.

Alas the poor fight the poor while the rich laugh their asses off.

Ending racism with racism, fucking brilliamt. Its like they should fight fire with fire.