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[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This has been obvious to anyone who read beyond Western media headlines for a long time now

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How long is a long time?

I remember when people were legitimately saying Ukraine could take back crimea...

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For me, I would say around 2020 and knowing the US was responsible for blowing up the pipelines the around summer 2021, considering the news at that time I could already tell. Not in detail, but enough to know it a high likelyhood, with doubts in between.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago