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listen we need to have a chat,
you and me and some others on here understand using matrix and signal and whatever for E2EE chats. The people who use discord/facebook messenger/imessage/sms/whatsapp DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about this stuff. They are only going to use what is in pop culture. That's how it is and i know it sucks, but people think its easy to "Get your family/friends over" whey they laugh at you and say "im not downloading just use x plz"
Here's the thing... People who care still use Discord. I'm one of them. I have no other option for maintaining communications with a group of 20 people I have been gaming with since 2009. We've all hopped from Skype to Teamspeak to Ventrillo to Discord. There's no going back for many of these people.
Like it or not, Discord offers a product that Signal, Briar, or any other Matrix chat offers and that's accessibility. I would love for a mainstream E2EE chat program that actually can host a 15 person call, hold multiple chatrooms in one server, allow screen sharing, streaming and multimedia sharing.
We can't just live in a vacuum and claim nobody uses these programs because they're stupid or don't care. For many, like me, Discord a reasonable security risk people are willing to take in order to maintain communications with people they care about.
This in turn is the problem im speaking about. We could go on about it all day. The only people that will use these tools for the most part are us. So naturally we should just be talking to each other, but yeah when it comes to our personal group, not happening.
then we need something new and hot and flashy to communicate on. Why not make it a way to work together too? This sounds like a good idea, if you know of a good way to make this system then you'd have my vote
If your family doesn't download the only (free and accessible) app you use, they're not your family
To be fair, the same argument can be applied both ways.
Not if you can't use the app they use because it requires a phone number or gapps.
Whereas they can use the app you use because it works fine on their device.
ok