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[–] bradboimler@startrek.website 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Glad I use GrapheneOS and don't use any Google apps or services anymore it's amazing how I no longer get spam calls and texts since the switch.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I de-google everything I can.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it's now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.

Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

De-googling is not enough, there must be nothing to de-Google from the start.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s one approach but far more limited than just using a Google-free Android build like Lineage.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I know, that's why I advocate for going Google free from the outset.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, it may be ideal, but that is not the same as absolutely necessary.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.

It's obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don't think I have any more to contribute to this topic.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Don't you have issues with banking apps then? It's the one thing holding me back from switching, but I haven't really done a deep dive in it.

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

No my bank app doesn't even use Google Play in anyway depends on the bank.

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Its a common misconception that banking apps don't work on grapheneOS.

In some cases there is a feature call "expliot protection compatibility mode" that you have to enable, but the OS does it automatically for most banking apps.

I wish I had a Pixel.