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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fascist dictatorships openly make false statements all the time, often to hide their real intentions. Russians go along with it because of some combination of fear, nationalism, nostalgia, and actually being in favor of fascism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So then what is the actual, mechanical reason for the invasion?

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A fascist doing fascist things, Make Russia Great again. He thought it would strengthen his position, he thought it would be easy, and he thought he could get away with it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you reject the stated logical, mechanical, economic reasons, and ascribe it to madness and absurdity? Occam's razor needs to be applied here, you need to justify your claims that absurdity is the reason in spite of evidence otherwise.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not madness or absurdity. Was it absurd for Hitler to invade Poland and France or for Saddam to invade Iran and Kuwait? With the benefit of decades of hindsight we can say that it didn't work out for them, sure, but these were deliberate and calculated moves made by serious men. Absurdity is taking the word of an enemy dictator at face value.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then, again, why do you think it is out of madness?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not, it's likely ego and want of power. You think that's madness?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think that's an extremely silly view of the situation when a much more reasonable motive was outright stated, and therefore significant evidence is required to prove the alternative. Vibes do not count.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Watch what governments do, not what they say. If they were concerned about NATO, (especially their air forces) they wouldn't be throwing away their stockpile of anti-air missiles to hit ground targets.