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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because sometimes idiots will plant evidence on someone they legitimately believe is guilty, but don't have the evidence to prove it.

Like, I don't think it's a stretch to say the majority of Americans know someone who has had that happen to them. I know everyone who knows me does, because it happened to me as a kid.

Sure, I did what the cops thought I did. But the only evidence was what one cop planted, so charges never went anywhere. But if I hadn't been bailed out, I could have spent 6-12 months in jail waiting for the charges to be dropped.

This is reality.

So whether or not this specific one is a plant, you can't just believe what cops say at face value. Even when they're trying to "do the right thing" they can be corrupt. Lots of them just think the ends justify the means

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I too have ben fucked over by the cops when I was younger, but come on. It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.

Let’s say we buy into that argument. Where did they get the gun? The IDs? And who wrote the manifesto.

Not to mention the dude (Luigi) looks like the dude we seen in the CCTV images shown the last few days.

What is the benefit to finding a fall guy? It’s not going to stop someone else who is motivated to do the same to another CEO.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Regardless of your opinion on the suspect, taking cops at their word is fuckin stupid behavior. I don't give a shit what kind of evidence they say they have until it's scrutinized in court. The police lie for a living, it does not matter how high profile this case is.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.

It's nothing they (The Cops) haven't done before, and it wouldn't be just any random person, it'll be whoever looks closest to the images

Where did they get the gun? The IDs? And who wrote the manifesto.

They usually take what they need from evidence lockup

to mention the dude (Luigi) looks like the dude we seen in the CCTV images shown the last few days.

There's a million people who "looks like" someone else, nearly every image was missing LARGE portions (but different) of the face

What is the benefit to finding a fall guy?

To save face, literally that's it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.

Not really.

It's not "the murder weapon" it's a basic bitch p80 and a silencer. Maybe it's the murder weapon, we don't know yet.

And a fake ID isn't great evidence too, it doesn't have his name, or maybe even his actual picture. It could have been found in the backpack, along with a manifesto.

Like, I'm not saying it's a framejob, but you're acting incredulous that anyone could believe this could be a frame-up. To me it's less likely he's just going to a random McDonald's with all that stuff on him.

It's certainly possible, even plausible. That's different than saying it is, which seems to be the argument you're trying to have.

What is the benefit to finding a fall guy? It’s not going to stop someone else who is motivated to do the same to another CEO.

Because the CEO was under DOJ investigation for insider trading and a civilian suit from shareholders because he didn't let them know to sell when he did.

The CEO fucked over the rich, and blaming it on this would be an amazing frame up.

Because everyone wants the lie to be true.

Stop acting like real life is boring. Shits been crazy if you haven't noticed