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[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You could but half the country voted for the guy who hates poor people

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, neither party was going to pull the trigger on Medicare For All. We're not getting universal healthcare until the working class stops letting wedge issues divide it.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

75+ million fascists voted for a fascist.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Democrats have fought nationalized healthcare tooth and as well

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You say that, but when the Dems had a filibuster proof super majority in Congress for a handful of weeks over a decade ago, we got the ACA.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

They literally brought the health insurance executives in to write that bill. It was a step forward. But it was also a captive market that was supposed to be subsidized by state and federal governments. So the health insurance companies would just make a profit no matter what.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You say that, but when the Dems had a filibuster proof super majority in Congress for a handful of weeks over a decade ago, we got the ACA.

The ACA barely passed in its original form (219-212) with a bunch of democrats voting against it too. A few aligned themselves with big business however many other democrats voted against the ACA because they believe it didn't go far enough.

The ACA was still the biggest win for the American people on healthcare in decades.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, there were some pretty conservative Congress people back then. There no way we were gonna get enshrined abortion rights, since many Dems were staunchly pro-life, hence ACA as an alternative.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey why did we get the shitty ACA instead of actual universal healthcare if the Dems had power and were committed to getting universal healthcare?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because there were other people in Congress who talked about death panels and tried to kill it at every turn. Reps hate the populace, and try their best to neuter everything good for the people. Also, some pretty right-leaning Dems were there. Have you paid ANY attention to politics?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Maybe don't tout a half-measure that comprimised with literal ghouls as a defining unequivocal win for the party then?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

You some champion of missing the point? That's what we got despite all odds.

It's like you people don't understand politics or history. No wonder we elected a fucking fascist into office. JFC