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[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Looking at the numbers in 4 of the swing states, Kamala got more total votes in 2024 than Biden did in 2020, but so many rural voters just came out and voted for trump and against Kamal, so much so that in quite a few of the races Kamala lost but democrats in congress won their races, despite both running on functionally identical platforms.

Sure Dems generally care less and suck because they don't actually wield power when they have it but at least they're not actively trying to kill the minority populations and drag us into a theocratic oligarchy to fulfill the Book of Revelations prophesies.

I'd fucking love it if both political parties were trying to best represent their constituents. But they aren't, and opining for something that doesn't exist and has never existed isn't going to do us any good. We work with the tools we have and the people we can to make the best of a shit situation. It that means backing dems because they're not actively trying to kill minorities I'm gonna go with that on election day and do what I can to mitigate other kinds of damages.

[–] noscere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, I voted for every Dem I could. I voted as hard as I could. But I also think we should ALL be publicly outraged at how bad the two parties are.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

So did I and until something like the fall of the Whig party, split of the northern and southern Democrats and rise of progressive Republicans in the mid 1800s happens, we have to make do with what we have at hand.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think you drew a lot of conclusions that I'm not sure I can get on board with.

Looking at the numbers in 4 of the swing states, Kamala got more total votes in 2024 than Biden did in 2020

Across the US She got about 7 million votes fewer than Biden in 2020. There was clearly an enthusiasm problem and the dems lost minorities and almost every other demographic in a huge way. DNC didnt want to admit that Biden was historically unpopular. like legendarily so, and they just plum forgot to shore up their base. They instead demanded fealty in exchange for right wing talking points and policies, and prancing loathsome rightwingers like Cuban and Liz Cheney across the stage like we were supposed to be impressed. It was lunacy, with some hubris mixed in for seasoning. So here we are, in the aftermath of corporate shill amateur hour.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They instead demanded fealty in exchange for right wing talking points and policies

There was literally none of those.

prancing loathsome rightwingers like Cuban and Liz Cheney across the stage like we were supposed to be impressed

None of them had any impact on policies in any way. So why would NOT welcome the support of the few conservatives who remained loyal to America instead of going neofascist?

It was lunacy

Getting people's support without giving up a single thing in return is the opposite of lunacy.

So here we are, in the aftermath of corporate shill amateur hour.

WTF are you talking about. Harris was going to raise taxes on corporations even more than Biden did.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Getting people’s support without giving up a single thing in return is the opposite of lunacy.

without even challenging your other inaccuracies, its a plain fact that harris slowly bled percentages every day for the whole last month of her campaign. Every day lost ground, which only made her double down on looking for rightwing votes which didnt exist.