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YouTube is increasing Premium prices in multiple countries, right after an ad-blocker crackdown | You either pay rightfully for the video content you consume, or you live with the ads.::Google is increasing the prices of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music Premium subscriptions in some regions, right after blocking ad-blockers.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Unpopular opinion: this is a good thing.

(Waits for down votes... )

This is healthy for the ecosystem, it makes it possible for other video platforms to compete, and be sustainable. Google providing the loss leader in video streaming makes it difficult for other platforms to exist, and sustain themselves, because they don't have Google's war chest.

So it's going to be a difficult transition, but now there is wiggle room for other platforms to exist. And with 1 gigabit, and 10 gigabit home internet connections becoming more common globally, we have options for more interesting gorilla distributed video streaming.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will the gorillas go door to door with a pad or something with a video on it, or are you thinking memory sticks?

[–] farken@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Both services are available, and I recommend paying the extra for the 'please dont rip my arms off' extra.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago

More like IPFS. If you have a bunch of gigabit residential internet connections distributed globally. That's a reasonable approximation of a video streaming platform.

I'm not saying I have a good solution for today, but all the components are there to build a competitor to YouTube, and now if the price barrier going up, there's room for whatever organization competes with YouTube to get some sustainable income

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Significant portions of the US are still on copper cable or DSL, I don’t think there’ll be widespread fiber, let alone 10G for at least 10-15 years

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed, I'm in northern Canada and only the capital city of my territory has cable internet, the outskirts of the city and the smaller communities are stuck with ancient and capped (300GB per month) DSL at 15 Mbps while I get unlimited 100/10 Mbps for $140 per month. I'd kill for symmetrical 100/100 so I could access my plex server outside of my house, let alone 1 Gbps fiber internet.

I'd guess we're a minimum of 5-10 years away from fiber internet sadly, we just don't have the population to make it profitable enough for the greedy ass telecom companies, even with the extra government funding the telecom gets for serving our low population territory.

[–] thechadwick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right I hope. Especially about gorillas sharing video! We need a guerilla movement to get these gorillas some cell phones and I've been saying it for years!

[–] Sparrow_1029@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

10Gb to the home? Where have you seen this, and.for how much? I had no idea that was a thing for residential

[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

64.75 Swiss Franks per month from my ISP, it's the same price as their 1 Gb/s and 25 Gb/s plans.

I'm currently still on 1Gb/s because buying the faster router, switch and network cards to make use of more is kind of expensive

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I get 2gbps to my home in singapore for $30USD a month.

10gbps is available in a few places globally, but its becoming more common. i.e. https://www.utopiafiber.com/10-gbps-info/

[–] Sparrow_1029@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow that's nice! I get 600/25mbps for $80USD in the US, coax 😞 wish fiber-to-the-premise was a possibility in my neighborhood

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even that's twice what I get. The prices here are disgusting... I get 300mbps for $100... Yay monopolies!

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My parents get 25/1 for ~$150 since there’s no other options, nor is there any plans to run new cable to get them better internet.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago

https://www.advancedstream.com/brighamcity

10gbps in utah for $200 a month...

I imagine korea has some great prices too.....

but the important thing here is the trend, data is becoming available, data centers don't matter as much as we become more interconnected ourselves.

[–] h0usewaifu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a really good point, I never thought about this. While we still haven't seen the anti-adblock message from YT (Firefox + uBlock Origin on Linux Mint), we've been using Nebula more and more lately. It would be great if there was a similar service for quality kids content. As it stands we stick to just a couple YT channels for our 2.5 year old because of how much absolute, irredeemable garbage there is targeted at kids there. I can't imagine how shit the ads are for them.

[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have no idea what the content is like on YouTube Kids but on my YouTube app when I cast kids stuff the display ads on the phone side are often for mobile games with really creepy shit like dead Paw Patrol characters and grieving Elsa.

I'd never leave a little one attended with an iPad with YouTube on their own

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is what I've been saying, youtube providing the service for free is what's been preventing competitors to exist.

[–] ddkman@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No, not really. I get what you mean but the truth is, that unsustainable practices should've been capped, and made illegal BEFORE there was a monopoly. Now that there is one, they can do what they want. Google aren't idiots. They know FULL well they can do this. All of this is calcualted.