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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not evangelizing in any way, but it is worth a try. If "back in college" was 10 years ago, I could hardly agree more that it was pain all around, but it is so much easier nowadays that even I without any advanced knowledge in Linux I could setup one of the harder distress (Arch) without any pain at all (thanks Archinstall).

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes it was longer than that.

My main thing is that, then and now (based on discussions I read between users), most any user experience that I relate to seems to be equal parts:

"try to figure out the Linux equivalent of what you were doing in Windows and hope it's compatible with the rest of your needs"

"Try to figure out how to get Linux to behave like Windows to accomplish something you did with that os"

"Become a hobbyist...programmer? IT specialist? And get familiar with tweaking and adjusting the details of how your computer works just to get it to do things you want"

Like...for people who enjoy it, I'm happy for them. Really! But I don't want to have to familiarize myself with commands, learn how to boot things up, or learn a whole list of things just to get the simple mindless functionality I have with Windows from decades of time in the system.

I think back then I tried Debian, Ubuntu, and...is 'OpenSUSE' a thing? I even had a group of three friends who were all super into Linux encouraging me and helping me every step of the way, and I was young and technically inclined and happy to have a challenge...and in the end, I went right back to Windows after a semester or two of that, because I just found that my experience was, broadly speaking, "Enjoy a problem solving exercise in software management every time you want to do something, just to get to a basic level of function, with added quirks that you'll just have to deal with...and little real benefit for the order of magnitude of extra effort".

And while I'm sure some of that would have had to get better in the years between, most of the conversations I still see about Linux are enthusiasts enjoying coming up with solutions to the issues of using their chosen system. Which again, that's fine, but I don't want to have to become an enthusiast of an OS.

Given a choice between, "have to learn how to get the OS to do everything" vs "put up with data collection and some intrusive ads once in a while"... I'm happy to go with the latter to have things just work without having to learn a new skill set just to get the same level of functionality.

I'm happy to use W10 well after its official support ends, though I strongly suspect there will be significant extensions to that timeline. Even then, I'm happy to use it until it's no longer the path of least resistance, at which point, I'll reevaluate my options. When we get there, if it seems reasonable, maybe I'll dip my toes into the Linux pool again.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Understandable, from a software engineer's view, I get it.

IMO the biggest challenge is to fundamentally change how one thinks about given system. The goal is not to want to get it to behave like windows. But I understand it is hard for someone who used windows his whole life (I've been like that aswell). LibreOffice will never look like Office, downloading new software is not gonna be just running an .exe installer, and system settings will sometimes not be just "click here and it does what you want".

Not trying to convince you (or anyone), but just my two cents.

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Windows 'just works'? What about all the programs crashes that you need to go through endless YouTube tutorials to fix? What about having to fill up a form and register your credit card for every closed source program you need to install? I don't think Windows 'just works'.

Not to mention all the "freeware" that doesn't do what it is supposed to do. Like if you want a background removal from your webcam.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Windows 'just works'? What about all the programs crashes that you need to go through endless YouTube tutorials to fix? What about having to fill up a form and register your credit card for every closed source program you need to install?

I've literally never had either of these experiences with W10.

At least not in the past 5+ years.