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[โ€“] ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe the Filipinos which have a lot of spanish grammar would substitute in English if the Spanish based grammar confused them

[โ€“] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Filipinos ignore Spanish grammar entirely and only use Spanish words as roots. Their languages have nothing in common with Spanish and Spanish words only remain because they were occupied for 300+ years by Spain.

For example, "pants" in Tagalog (official dialect of the Philippines) is "pantalon" like Spanish, but the plural is "mga pantalon" due to Tagalog grammar, not "pantalones" as in Spanish (see also "oras," which doesn't indicate plural) #. They spell things differently because they don't have a V sound (so vaca - > baka) and they conjugate with Tagalog rules, not Spanish (e.g. "intindi" meaning "understand" becomes "maintindihan" instead of "entienda/entiendas/entendamos").

Spanish words are merely loan words in Tagalog, Filipinos don't generally speak Spanish. Most don't even know which words came from Spanish and which came from native Tagalog (or other Filipino languages) because they're treated the same. If a word is not clearly understood, they'll use the English, not Spanish, because most speak passable English and few speak Spanish.

Also, Filipino has no genders in grammar, the only gendered words are Spanish loan words. For example, uncle/aunt are tito/tiya from Spanish, but son/daughter is "anak," and pronouns are "siya" (he/she), "niya" (his/her), "sila" (they/them), "nila" (they/them), "sa kanya" (to him/her), and "sa kanila" (to them). You have to go out of your way to specify gender in Tagalog, which awesome.