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[–] snek@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

First, I didn't cheer for Hamas.

Also, That area is still a refugee camp. You are confusing Jabalia city with the Jabalia refugee camp.. It's okay to be wrong, you just have to admit it to yourself.

And the very fact that somehow bombing people taking refuge in a city rather than a refigee camp is something you needed to point out as though that changes anything ... That's very telling.

And lastly, Israel is losing the media war. 😊 It's not sustainable to kill more people and get away with it, not when even holocaust historians are alarmed at the Israeli rhetoric and massacre it keeps committing on a daily basis.

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jabalia Refugee Camp was established in 1948.

It's not a temporary housing measure. The buildings are all high-density multi-family dwellings constructed from reinforced concrete.

Calling it a refugee camp cheapens the word for people who are displaced from their homes and forced into temporary housing during a war.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still a refugee camp. It houses refugees who have been displaced. Many Palestinian refugee camps are X number of years old because Israel has been ethnically cleansing them for decades. It doesn't matter how you define it, no one "made shit up", it's classed as a refugee camp. The UN set it up as a camp, but here comes some random regular jackoff on lemmy trying to tell us otherwise.

The audacity of pro-Israelis in twisting all international definitions is beyond me.

Again, the very fact that it's been a refugee camp for decades where people have shitty living conditions makes this bombing that Israel did worse, not better.

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The people living in that camp were done dirty by the 1949 armistice, don't get me wrong. But it's been 75 years; they need to move on.

Palestinians are literally the only refugees on the planet who pass down refugee status to their children. That's based on the definition that the UN made up because the Arab countries didn't want to take in Palestinians.

They've had 75 years to move out of that camp and make their own lives better. At some point, they need wipe the snot off their noses and stop crying. The Jews who were ethnically cleansed from the Arab countries faced adversity when they moved to Israel, but they've moved on and made their lives much better.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's called the right of return. That's what you get when you create an apartheid state that does ethnic cleansing for breakfast.

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's wonderful to see you agree that Arab Jews also have a right of return, and deserve reparations for their stolen assets during the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Muslim countries

EDIT: I'm trolling you with this comment, but I feel a little bad about it. Let's just agree to disagree and take the rest of the day to cool off

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Of course they do. What happened during that time was wrong.

I'm trolling you with this comment, but I feel a little bad about it. Let's just agree to disagree and take the rest of the day to cool off

I think you mostly talk out of your ass, but that's okay.

@steventhedev @snek Oh wait, I misspoke, the "Jews" of the 1940's didn't have a "historical" connection to the last, they only had a RELIGIOUS connection to the land. Religion doesn't convey physical property rights, so talk about making shit up.

@steventhedev @snek The Jews didn't "move on" , they literally created "Zionism" and STOLE land they had only a mere historical connection to. Your entire post was completely delusional