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[–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I would love for this to happen, but it just seems to be another reason why Trump wants tariffs on foreign EVs--both Elon and the oil/car execs don't want clean, affordable vehicles! They only want us buying gas-guzzling tanks or deregulated, overpriced Teslas.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean, I hate the guy but Tesla prices have dropped significantly over time and Tesla does a ton of battery R&D, which is good. And Tesla has done more for the EV charging infrastructure in the US than anyone else has. Even so, going forward I will never buy a Tesla, I'm hoping my next car will be an Aptera. More and more non-Tesla EVs are coming with the NACS port and can use the Tesla chargers, which is great. Non-Tesla chargers are few and far between. And generally pretty slow. But fuck Elon regardless.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tesla introduced the fad of using an app for charging which other idiots promptly copied making the charging infrastructure a fucking nightmare.

Tesla introduced big screen few buttons which other car manufacturers copied, making a few model years of cars more dangerous than they have to be, thankfully manufacturers are rolling that shitty as trend back.

Tesla continues to make cars with shit reliability, and dangerous UX with no buttons or turning shit to touch buttons that should be that, e.g. the turning indicators.

In short fuck Tesla and Musk.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tesla introduced the fad of using an app for charging

I understand why someone could be bothered by that. I've only ever used the Tesla and Chargepoint apps. I appreciate not having to take extra steps to pay and it all happens automatically, though I did have to set up separate accounts for each. I don't have any complaints about charging so far.

Tesla introduced big screen few buttons

Yeah I don't like that either. Fortunately there's been some push back on that lately. Plenty of physical buttons in the Kia & Hyundai EVs as far as I know. I hope that continues.

Tesla continues to make cars with shit reliability

Aside from the cybertruck I don't believe that's true. I know 3 people who've had Teslas (model 3 or S) for 5 or more years and they all say that it's the most reliable and lowest maintenance car that they've had. Again I agree with you on changing the physical buttons onto a touch screen buttons.

Tesla has done and is (generally) doing some great stuff. I think many of the poor decisions they've made as a company were driven by Elon. If he could just fuck off to Mars or drop dead or something and free up Tesla from the burden of his ketamine-fueled decisions that would be awesome.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Tesla only dropped their price when the federal rebate was limited to lower price EVs (so no more rebates for luxury vehicles, which makes perfect sense).

He wants to go back to selling less quantity if higher priced (and much higher profit) cars. Just like the rest of the goddamn cars industry outside of China apparently.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe a silver lining is that this would free up these cars to be sold in other countries that have cities drowning in smog.. if cheaper EVs are available there it might dramatically improve the health of these cities and all their inhabitants..

[–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a good point. I guess that was pretty American of me to dismiss this entirely because of what's going on here.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I did the same as a European.. and this thought dawned on me when I saw your post.. glad to see this helps us all sort of relativate things.. cause a trade war about cars is coming.. as both the US and the EU will fight hard to protect their own car manufacturers.

[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like they didn't learn a goddamn thing from the 70s and the better, cheaper, more fuel efficient cars imported from Japan.

[–] cheeseandrice@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

It’s more like the lessons of the 70s don’t apply to people like them.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You do know we already have 100% EV tariffs from Biden, right? I don't think Trump even needs to extend them, but I could be wrong.