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[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Three big things:

  1. Compartmentalization of media (echo chambers)
  2. Tribalism (thanks Russia!)
  3. Macho culture (treating politics like a college football game except being LESS informed)

We'll never recover from this. This is the United States of Ignorance now. I'm deeply sorry to those who did their part and will be victims in the future, but it HAS to get worse before it can get better. We need a great reset in some form. Revolution, world war, alien invasion...

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago

This is sort of my train of thought, however, historically, when that sort of thing happens, very rarely is the resulting government a unfucked democratic nation.

I hope there are enough people with actual core American values that rise to the top if/when it happens.

My hopes aren’t high, but they’re not high with the status quo either.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

That would be amazing!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

LOL neither the media nor Russia created tribalism or echo chambers. They're just the digital equivalent of immigrants creating ethnic neighborhoods. People are more comfortable around others who speak their language and share their background. Give them all the variety in the world and most of them will flock to their own kind.

But I totally agree America is the United States of Ignorance and won't recover from it. Not just ignorance but incapability - in spite of a flourishing DIY culture, Americans in general can't DIY their way out of a WalMart. They don't even think up to them to solve anything, because every problem is either somebody else's direct fault or was inevitable because of conditions somebody else created. It's a nation of spectators whining that all the shows suck.