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We've now seen what the ignorance of 10 million who don't bother to show up can do.
That's how many Democrats voted in 2020 but not this year, and are blaming the results on "the party". Nope, it was you fucktwats.
Don't worry. Plenty of blame to go around. The fuckwad voters who enabled fascism by staying home, and the fuckwad party elite who couldn't find their own asses with both hands and a map and lost a lay-up election to fascism through their own venality and incompetence.
And don't forget this (from 2016):
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately "elevated" Donald Trump with its "pied piper" strategy
It's still paying dividends, apparently.
They suck at campaigning, but they aren't the worst at governing. An informed voter doesn't require razzle dazzle, but alas we are in short supply of informed voters. I don't see that turning around anytime soon, so buckle up buttercup!
Nah, they suck most at governing. People were tired of things getting worse every year under Democrats. Things get worse faster under Republicans, but the Democrats didn't do enough to prevent our societal decay into feudalism. They're corrupt as fuck, especially where they have supermajorities. Every law to address problems is another scheme that helps the rich. They never take a stand against business, not understand that there is currently no way to serve both capital and labor.
I'm looking forward to get my crippled ass Aktion-T4ed in the coming years, so you could say I'm buckled up
No I voted and still blame them. People were vocal about their concerns and intentions to not vote months before the election and the campaign ignored them and somehow that isn’t their fault.
Also the 10 million, like you said, were ignorant. It wasn’t the ultra-impassioned grandstanders that affected an election. It was people that saw the last 4 years relatively boring politics as a license to tune out and figured this election wasn’t something they needed to worry about. Those people exist in far FAR higher numbers than anybody actually paying attention
I don't think repeatedly telling people how important voting is and pleading with them to vote and to get other people to vote is "ignoring" it. What I blame the Democratic party for is not cultivating younger candidates for years and years. There should have been a broader field of viable candidates to narrow down based on public opinion, or at the very least grooming Harris as a likely candidate throughout Biden's term instead of swapping her in as an emergency backup. Having said that, there's no excuse for "I'm not voting because there isn't a good enough candidate!" is the mentality of petulant high school sophomores who refuse to brush their teeth because they're mad at mom for making them miss soccer practice to go to a dentist appointment - I mean, she's such a bitch, I'm just gonna let my teeth rot in protest!
For sure, but if you tell that kid to just fall in line because you know better, you’re going to get an even more obstructive petulant response to your request. You have to meet people as individuals and let them in on the vision if you want them to be invested in it. Most of the messaging I saw however, was people taking any and all opportunity to display their superiority to anyone that doesn’t immediately fit into the plan
We're talking about voters not kids, and if you think the message was, "Just fall in line because I know better," you weren't paying attention. The Harris campaign bent over backwards to warn people about the dangers of an impending Trump dictatorship. Some people just didn't listen, or they can't see significant differences between the Harris and Trump. I can't even engage with any of that, because to me it's as stupid as insisting the Earth is flat. Whatever, we are where we are.
Well, ooooobviously that's because the democrats cheated in 2020 and then inexplicably, while in power, decided not to cheat in 2024. Obviously.
Massive /s.
Tbf. 152 million votes counted so far in 2024 and just shy of 160 million voted in 2020. Every swing state had record turn out except Pennsylvania which was close. There was bound to be less votes with people working and mail in ballots not valid to do because covid in some states. Most the votes lost were in states that outcomes were the same in 2020. She lost by 250k people in 4 states. These people flipped or some sat home while more showed up for Trump she lost because of not getting better turn out in those states she even beat Bidens numbers in some of these states.