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Tipping in America has expanded into unexpected areas, with 72% of Americans saying it is expected in more places than five years ago, according to Pew Research.

While tipping can release feel-good neurotransmitters, a Bankrate survey found two-thirds of Americans now view it negatively, and one-third feel it’s “out of control.”

Critics highlight issues like social pressure and wage inequality, while businesses attempting no-tipping models, like a New York wine bar, have struggled to sustain them.

Many believe tipping culture has become excessive, with calls for reform growing.

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[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I see that now. Thanks.

It looks like we have a plausible mechanism and no evidence yet. I wonder who is trying to gather more evidence. My money is on nudging having nontrivial effect, but I might sleep better if I knew it didn't. Either way, people will try, and that's where we are.

In that case, we fall back to the impact. All the more reason to advise folks to resist tipping unless they actually want to---to interpret the requests for tips in unexpected places as little more than an optimistic, misguided, or even accidental attempt to nudge. It's the judgmental stories that people tell themselves that seem to tie them up in knots. Let others judge you for not tipping, because they were going to find some way to judge you, anyway.

We can practise resisting. I recommend trying.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I'm a huge asshole tipper I dgaf.

I think there's probably some mechanism backing it that is real, but right now it seems like the original nudge authors are just trying to defend their concept.

There's a fun if books could kill podcast episode about nudge in particular which is where I learned. This is why I say I can't comment on specific effectiveness in one instance or another, just that the nudge concept hasn't been proven.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I will look for that episode. Thank you.

I maintain that Nudge not being proven doesn't change much in this situation, because as long as enough of "the right" people believe it has enough of an effect, they'll continue to try. All it takes is one well-placed person who makes the tipping screen enabled by default for a popular payment collection service and/or adds resistance to changing that setting. Dark patterns spread easily, even when they don't work. Even when they result in blowback.